I asked him if he ever saw anything
other-worldly while he was in space.
"Nothing," he said. Did the other
astronauts, any of them, see any-
thing? "I don't think so," he said.
How about on the moon? Anything
at all? "Nothing on the moon."
Researchers in this field are sure
that someone in government
knows a lot more than they're
saying. He agreed. "So how can
we get the truth to come out?" I
asked. "I think that's pretty
much up to THEM -- the aliens," he said. "They seem to show
themselves when and where and to whom they want. I wish they
would pick some people who really want to meet them, instead
of a couple of fishermen in Pascagoula, Mississippi" -- referring
to the famous 1973 abduction of Charles Hickson and Calvin
"Would you want to meet them, Gordon?" I asked. "Heck
he said. "I'd give them a good welcome."
I don't think we have to wait for the aliens to begin
truth about what is known. Doesn't the government already
have lots of information? What about Roswell, I asked.
"Well, I'm pretty sure something was picked up at Roswell."
What about bodies?
"Maybe, yes. But I think there were better ones than
he said. "We got some live ones."
Live ones? Live aliens? Of course one hears all the
and wild tales. Was Gordon certain that there were live aliens?
"I knew a guy who brought one in," he said.
What? Brought one in? What did that mean, exactly?
It was back in the mid-1950s, at White Sands Proving
in the middle of the New Mexico desert. His friend Moser had
who passed away a few years ago -- was a rocket scientist. He
was working by himself on a rocket engine test bed, getting
ready for a test the next day. Suddenly, without warning, he heard
a voice say his name. He didn't know where it came from. He
looked around, saw no one. The voice said his name again.
Then the voice said, 'Don't worry, I'm above you in a craft a
few miles up.'
Gordon said the voice belonged to a person who wanted
to provide information about earth and humans, so that this
visitor could begin to adjust to living here. An arrangement was
struck whereby Moser would bring the visitor library books,
the visitor would read them at incredible speed, then Moser would
get more. On more than one occasion, Moser went aboard the
visitor's craft. The visitor looked human enough to pass on the
street, but he was not used to earth gravity and had a hard time
breathing our air. It took him five years to acclimate to earth
conditions. Then he started living on the surface. Moser stayed
in close touch with him.
I asked Gordon if he ever met the visitor. "No. I hinted
again and again, but Moser never introduced us."
Where is the visitor now? Gordon said he doesn't know.
visitor learned to blend into human society and became a
businessman, Moser said.
Why was the visitor here? Gordon said Moser told him
visitor's people had been in space a long time. They were a very
old race, and their planet had died when their sun died. They
didn't want to invade or change our society. They just wanted to
live on solid ground. Earth took some getting used to, but Moser's
visitor friend had adjusted well. Presumably there were many
There was another opportunity for him to meet aliens,
but it fell
through. It was in 1972 or 1973, just after he left the space
program. He was in touch with a group of people who were at
Giant Rock in the Mojave Desert of California. There was to be
an arrangment whereby Gordon and a small group could attend
a contact event and even record it on film. The day before the
scheduled event, there was a preliminary meeting where something
went wrong. Gordon said he wasn't there and doesn't know exactly
what happened; but it resulted in cancelling the next day's event.
Speaking as one who knows (to his own satisfaction,
at least) that
a variety of alien types are visiting the earth, he's convinced that
most of them are benevolent, although some may be unfriendly
or even dangerous. He didn't seem too concerned about the
Had there been a technology transfer? He said
it was quite
possible that the story told by Bob Lazar about saucers at a secret
base in Nevada was true; and that wreckage had probably been
recovered at Roswell and elsewhere. I asked him if he thought
the rumors about a landing at Holloman Air Force Base in New
Mexico were true, and he thought perhaps they were.
Having previously learned of Gordon's friendly relations
the "Black" world of super-secrecy -- one of his business partners
was formerly a top official in the Lockheed Skunk Works, and
Gordon has worked from time to time with various intelligence
agencies, including the CIA -- I have to assume that he knows far
more than he would ever divulge to me, particularly in this
kind of get-acquainted conversation.
Nonetheless, I found him remarkably open and willing
quite amazing assertions. I'm convinced he really believes that
aliens are here. That being the case, I'm glad he also seems
convinced that most of our alien visitors are friendly.